(closed)FastRawViewer 2.0/beta1

Submitted by lexa on Tue, 06/01/2021 - 01:33
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New versions: Beta and Release Candidates

This topic is for FRV 2.0 (beta1) reporting.

Update: topic is closed because of FRV2/beta2 availability, here is new problem reporting topic:https://www.fastrawviewer.com/node/781

UliP (not verified)

Thu, 06/03/2021 - 05:08

I love the new multi-window mode. Well done!
It is extremely helpful when comparing very similar photos. As a nature photographer, you quickly have hundreds of photos of the same subject. For example, a bird in flight.

But there is a small point of criticism, or rather a wish in relation to the 2 window layout:
So far I have sorted my photos with Lightroom and used the comparison view. Therefore, I am used to seeing the first photo of a series in the left window and the subsequent ones in the right window. This should also be the case with other programs. Therefore I would like to see the Main Window on the right and the secondary Window #1 on the left. Does this make sense? Would that be possible?

Thanks a lot and best regards

Uli

lexa

Thu, 06/03/2021 - 07:35

'Main' window is on the left (top) because (we think that)  things are numbered from left to right and from top to bottom. so 0/1 (0 is 'not numbered' main window)

We'll consider custom window ordering, thank you for your feedback. 

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

lexa

Mon, 06/07/2021 - 01:38

We managed to add Preferences - Multi-window mode - Main/secondary windows order with Main window on (top)-left or (top)-right (more variants are possible if someone requests it)

This option takes effect on program (re)-start.



Thank you again for your feedback,

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

UliP (not verified)

Mon, 06/21/2021 - 03:04

Thank you so much for taking my idea and relaizing it so quickly and easily! Great service!

Olaf Giermann (not verified)

Wed, 06/09/2021 - 16:17

Renaming in some patterns is not working correctly: The year is skipped. See screenshot for example. I hope this will be fixed before release and I hope the release is soon. ;-)
Thanks.

lexa

Thu, 06/24/2021 - 05:44

Thanks, to be fixed in the next update

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

lexa

Fri, 06/25/2021 - 11:28

Fixed in build 1830 available via https://www.fastrawviewer.com/blog/FastRawViewer-2-0-Beta

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Thu, 06/10/2021 - 15:33

Time stamp in milliseconds
I am very interested in the file rename feature in FRV 2 beta but was concerned by this text in the web page description for file renaming.
z,zzz – millisecond (always zero in EXIF)
I would need the millisecond time value to be included as using fast shutter speeds and burst mode on the camera you can take double digit number of photos per second.
I currently use another file renaming tool that uses EXIF and use the tag <ExifTool:SubSecDateTimeOriginal> to get the full time stamp for the file.
Can FRV v 2.0 make use of this tag to get the millisecond value?

 

lexa

Thu, 06/24/2021 - 05:49

ExifTool:SubSecDateTimeOriginal is not an EXIF tag, but Exiftool's 'composite' tag, created from other metadata values (as described in: https://exiftool.org/TagNames/Composite.html ), including vendor specific metadata tags (not documented by vendors, it is always a 'best guess').

We do not plan to expand support for metadata beyond the (documented) EXIF, because when working with undocumented data, there is a high probability of errors.



For this specific case, timestamp (without seconds) plus shot serial number extracted from file name will result into right naming sequence.

 

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 07:05

Hi No that would not work: "timestamp (without seconds) plus shot serial number extracted from file name". The shot serial number can role when it reachs 9999 it starts again at 0. So time stamp + shot serial number will fail whenever the number reachs 9999. 
Without subsec naming the naming feature in Fast Raw Viewer beta is of no value to my specific use case of fast burst mode.
ExifTool:SubSecDateTimeOriginal is a composite tag: 
EXIF:CreateDate
SubSecTimeDigitized
OffsetTimeDigitized
OK so can Fast Raw Viewer build its own time stamp from
EXIF:CreateDate
SubSecTimeDigitized
no need for Offset I have to remove that using regular expressions in the rename tool I am currently using.
 

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 07:08

Sorry wrong tag replace with TimeOriginal not TimeDigitized
EXIF:DateTimeOriginal
SubSecTimeOriginal
OffsetTimeOriginal
 

lexa

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 07:25

You're right: this will work for some cameras (while others does not record SubSecTimeOriginal into EXIF )

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 12:35

Hi, how about implementing millisecond "mmm" time stamp as an option turned off by default. Then if option turned on do a test in the code
If exist SubSecTimeOriginal then extract mmm else set mmm = 000.
This would something that Lightroom does not do and would be a benefit for those who shoot a lot of burst mode like sport and wildlife photographers.

lexa

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 12:43

Could you please explain?  m and mm are for minutes, not for milleseconds, so I cannot understand what exactly you are asking

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:31

Sorry just read the manual mmm = zzz :-) I.e. milliseconds

lexa

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 09:31

Implemented in build 1841 available via https://www.fastrawviewer.com/blog/FastRawViewer-2-0-Beta-2

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

JD

Thu, 06/17/2021 - 06:43

SWIPE GESTURES ...
To me, the support for the swipe gestures on the trackpad would be very desirable. Scroll forwards and backwards with two fingers and the familiar zoom gesture (in single file view). Are there any plans to implement this?

SB (not verified)

Sat, 06/26/2021 - 13:25

Is there a possibity to add Button Bar Items to use a mouse-click to lauch Multi-window mode options B, Alt-B, and Ctrl-B ?   Similar to what is offered for |S H L| or |USM E D|
Thanks

LibRaw

Sat, 06/26/2021 - 14:45

Good point, we will add those icons.

Thank you.

SB (not verified)

Sat, 06/26/2021 - 19:37

THANK YOU. Much appreciated 

LibRaw

Sun, 06/27/2021 - 00:16

Sorry I missed your e-mail on the subject.

SB (not verified)

Sun, 06/27/2021 - 12:44

Please never say sorry.   I still have not thanked you enough for teaching me about exposure. A total game changer.
 
SB

SB (not verified)

Tue, 06/29/2021 - 11:07

Under the XMP Metadata Panel one of the options is “Move to next file after”
After getting to the end of the files I very frequently start going back over the files but in the opposite direction. 
Is it possible to have the  “Move to previous file after” option ?     
Thanks
SB
 

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:36

NumFromFile not expected result
I have installed FRV version build 1841. Trying /yyyyMMdd/_/NumFromFile/
I get 20160428_80  I was expecting 20160428_9611. Original file name is D80_9611.NEF
 
 

lexa

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:43

/NumFromFile/ (without modifiers) extracts 1st digit sequence from file name. For your case, D80_9611, it is 80.

To extract 2nd sequence use /NFF2/

 

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:50

Ok that worked thanks. I think a good idea would be to have filenaming presets so users can have different settings and select for different cameras, I only have the camera model setup for one brand, the other uses the default DSC file naming label so I would need to flip presets depending on camera I used.

lexa

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:53

If []Enable history is checked in file rename dialog, last 20 presets are saved in last-used order, so you can easy select one from drop-down (up-down keys works too)

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:44

p.s. I am using the option in the camera to set file naming so I can ID the camera used so D80_9611.NEF is the filename on the memory card.

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:41

Time not working?
I have installed FRV version build 1841. Trying /yyyyMMdd/_/hhmmss/ I get "pattern error". Is it user error i.e. have I misunderstood the syntax or is time not yet implemented?

lexa

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:45

There are

a) pre-defined patterns (selectable via drop-down), e.g. /yyyyMMdd/

b) user-customized patterns, for date it starts from /D  or /DI.  Probably you need /Dhhmmss/

See details in this manual: https://www.fastrawviewer.com/blog/FastRawViewer-2-0-Renaming-files

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sat, 07/03/2021 - 14:56

Thanks this works /Dhhmmsszzz/ gives 164634040.NEF
I should now be able to create my full file namimg sequence: myname_yyyyMMdd_hhmmsszzz_original sequence number

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 13:11

As zzz works fine for me maybe the documentation could be updated. The text "z,zzz always zero in EXIF" caused me a lot of confusion.

lexa

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 13:13

Yes, we'll definitely update the leaflet/text. FRV2 w/ subsecond support is just released.

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 13:09

How to ID camera used?
Could a pre-defined pattern be added to ID the camera? Model name would work for me but some may like serial number. Alternatively is there a way to select the first word rather than first number? I use the camera settings to name files after the model rather than starting with DSC E.g. D80_9611.NEF is short name for my old D800.
This would be useful if you have muliple cameras on the same assignment / trip.

lexa

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 13:14

Sorry, no plans to add metadata tokens at this step. May be in future.....

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 14:57

Ok, is there a means to select the letmost three charecters or the first word (letters and numbers)? That would work for the way I have the camera change the DSC part of the filename to my camera model.

lexa

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 15:15

just type these (destination) character as is?  You may filter current files set to DSC* by using this mask in Sort/Filter panel.

We do not plan to implement very complex renaming rule system (like regular expression replacement) because no one will able to use it. If you need very complex rules please use any (complex) file renaming software, there are many such programs.

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 13:13

Please consider adding a predefined format code for time e.g. hhmmss would be a useful format code to have as a default. Even hhmmsszzz as zzz micro seconds works fine on all my Nikon cameras.

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 13:20

Filename to title
Maybe this is too specific to my workflow, but I have to use a plugin in Lightroom to do this task. ( I even have a plugin to Adobe Bridge that does just this for the one field).
Copy filename without extension to title EXIF field. As I nolonger need to use a specific file renaming program as my first step and can use FRV for renaming my filenames it would be cool if there was an option to transfer the file name to the Title field. I do this because the end jpeg file may get named to something else but I still have the original filename in the title so can trace the jpeg back to the source file.

lexa

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 13:25

FastRawViewer does not alter RAW files in any way. So (any) EXIF/Metadata editing is completely out of program scope.

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 14:55

Hi , no the title is written to the XMP sidecar file. Is this doable in FRV?

lexa

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 14:57

https://www.fastrawviewer.com/usermanual17/xmp-metadata (scroll to Title and Description section)

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 15:53

Yes that's the kind of Title I am after but looking for a way to automatically copy the filename onto the title field, it would be too much to type the filename of every file but a copy filename to title would be ideal. I have a third party plugin to do this in Lightroom but would prefer to do that in FRV as it now does the filenaming.

lexa

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 15:58

This is a very special request, so no plans to implement it in nearest future.

it looks like you need some scriptable solution (e.g. exiftool + libxmp + some libxmp wrapper) for that.

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 15:57

FRV beta crash
I have found that FRV beta 2 build 1841 crashes at startup. I started FRV OK then set up my usual two monitor setup. I undocked the grid panel and moved it to my second monitor. Resized the grid panel to fill my second monitora and set thumbnail size to 400. All worked fine until I closed FRV and tried to restart it. Now the beta version tries to start but instantly closes.
Not sure how to get FRV to open again now. Is there any logs I can sedn to help?
 

lexa

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 15:59

Please follow this instructions: https://www.fastrawviewer.com/usermanual14/sending-crash-data

and send us crash dump(windows)/crash report(mac)

Also, try to start FRV by dragging some file onto program icon (for the case that stored last used path is not correct for some reason)

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Alex Tutubalin/FastRawViewer team

Ad Astra

Sun, 07/04/2021 - 16:36

Done, the dump file is large so sent via we transfer.